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Nelly
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 Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:53 pm Post subject: Helpless - Buffy but not Faith? |
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So, I was watching episode Helpless today and it occurred to me that Quentin said ''Whenever a Slayer turns 18, she has to stand through a test.'' or something to that extent.. It made me wonder, Faith is like one month older than Buffy, and she is the real Slayer because Buffy had been taken out of the line with the dying and all..
So why didn't Faith get tested with the vampire in the tomb thing like they did with Buffy?
Also, a general thing: since Buffy died, shouldn't her Slayer powers disappear since she was supposed to be dead?
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Amber
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| Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 3:43 am Post subject: |
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| They actually covered the idea of Faith's Cruciementum in Go Ask Malice: A Slayer's Diary. But since that isn't canon, it counts for nothing. I guess maybe there was far too much happening with Faith for the council to have even considered doing the test. The Council has a tendency to bury anything that embarrasses them, so they probably figured, she's in jail, good riddance.
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Dana
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| Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:45 am Post subject: |
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Funny thing, I never really thought of this but I think the fact that her watcher was killed and she was kinda watcher-less there wasn't much of an option to test her. Sure Giles could have done it but since he really wasn't her watcher then the test wasn't going to work that well, because if my mind isn't doing tricks on me, wasn't the point of the whole test to see how the watcher acted as well?
In any case, just a little while later she turned dark and there was no point in doing any slayer tests on her anymore as the council wanted her put away instead of active.
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Rua1412
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There are many issues around the various characters that there weren't Buffy that the authors leaved opened since they turned around the blonde slayer but like Dana said I think that Faith being a rebel to the Council and doesn't having a watcher, made the entire point to test her useless to the watchers' minds.
About Buffy losing her powers once she died, I think that they should stay with her since she returned exactly herself and not twisted in anyway both time.
Since she was still herself, her powers (something that was inborn in her) should still remaining inside her for me.
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Amber
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 5:24 pm Post subject: Re: Helpless - Buffy but not Faith? |
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| Nelly wrote: |
Also, a general thing: since Buffy died, shouldn't her Slayer powers disappear since she was supposed to be dead? |
you know it's wierd. i was just thinking about that the other day (while i was at work... hehehe) and I've come to the conclusion that the slayer is less in the body and more in the spirit. They resurrected Buffy's soul, and that soul is forever mystically attached to the slayer's power. I think that the fact that the slayer power is sorta floating around out there and able to be harnessed contributed to the being able to create the 1800 new slayers.
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Vyse
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Good question about Faith! I never thought about that... Personally, I think it would have been impossible to "test" someone like Faith. Faith is rebellious, and she would have never let anyone do that to her. Faith refuses to follow any kind of rule, and even Buffy would have refused if she had realized sooner what was happening (and she would have had every right to, IMO). However, it would have been interesting to see Faith's reaction to losing her powers, since when she turned dark she often said she believed to be better than regular people because she was a slayer. Losing her powers would have been a huge shock for her, I guess. Anyway, I think the Council didn't test her simply because they had totally lost control over her.
As for Buffy's powers, I perfectly agree with Amber  It's not just physical strength, but also and mainly in the spirit
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BlasterBoy
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Oh, wow! I never thought of though 
Well, I'm thinking is was just a blooper. Faith is the same age as Buffy? Did we ever find out? She might've been younger, I think. And I don't think the council cared about Faith, as Amber said. That's what I'm thinking. She kind of was forgotten because of Buffy. Also, how are they going to test Faith? Faith would just go and kick there asses. Technically, she didn't have a real watcher at that time. She didn't trust anyone.
I also agree with Amber on the Buffy's death thing. I don't think slayer's powers just go away when they die....
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